34. How to Downsize and Declutter Your Hobby Room Without Guilt

Craft rooms, woodworking benches, model train layouts—these spaces are more than just square footage. They’re often deeply personal zones of creativity, identity, and memory. So when it’s time to downsize or simplify your home, the hobby room is often the hardest place to start.

In this episode of The Downsizing Roadmap Podcast, we walk you through the emotional and practical side of letting go (or reinventing) your hobby room. Whether you're ready to say goodbye, want to honor the memories, or just need to right-size your supplies—we’ve got you covered.

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• 5 key questions to help you decide what to do with your hobby
• How to continue a beloved hobby in a smaller space
• Ways to pass on tools, supplies, and projects with purpose
• Emotional tips for letting go without feeling guilt
• Real-life stories of people who reinvented their creative spaces after moving

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Transcript

Jodi Rosko 0:01

Welcome back to another episode of the Downsizing Roadmap Podcast with your hosts Jody Roscoe and Heather Fisher. We're talking about all things downsizing, from our own experiences with clients to guest experts. Let's make downsizing easier, one conversation at a time. Welcome to the Downsizing Roadmap Podcast. I am Jodi Roscoe. I'm Heather Fisher. And today we're gonna talk about hobbies. Oh, hobbies.

Heather Fisher 0:26

I mean, people have some really fun hobbies that we've seen over the years. Really they do.

Jodi Rosko 0:31

Yes. There are so many. It's such a variety around it, but it can also take up tons and tons of space. Yes, we see that too.

Heather Fisher 0:39

I've seen quite a few train sets, and you know, some hobbies are just big.

Jodi Rosko 0:45

Some incredible Lego rooms. I've seen, we just had a client who has an amazing Lego um room, and then I had one that had in a basement that was the entire basement was and and the little like train went through it. I mean it was all set up like a city. It was it was amazing, actually. Super cool.

Heather Fisher 1:04

I think that lots of uh crocheters in my family, so lots of yarn.

Jodi Rosko 1:09

Yeah, we we have needlepoint. That's what our family does. Needlepoint.

Heather Fisher 1:12

Yes, and uh a a few wonderful ladies we've met over the years that handmade cards.

Jodi Rosko 1:19

Yeah, cards and quilts.

Heather Fisher 1:21

Soap, yes. Yeah. We've had people that make handmade soap. Uh uh so much fun. I know. Everybody's doing such fun things. Yeah.

Jodi Rosko 1:30

We had one client who downsized into a condo and the dining room became the quilting room because she had this machine like as big as the dining room. Oh, those that I mean amazing that made all the quilting, you know, shit whatever the seams or whatever the stitches are. All you quilters are like yelling the words at us that we don't know, but the patterns of the stitching are on the quilt. Yes, the stitching. I don't know beyond that. I've never made a quilt. Yes. But yeah, super cool. So I mean, she figured out a way to to make that work because she was really still um into it and still doing it.

Heather Fisher 2:05

I had a neighbor that was very much into quilting and the the front room, like the formal living room room, was like shelves, just the beautiful colors of the folded fabric. It looked like a fabric store, but it was beautiful too. There was so much that she had and she made beautiful work. But when you're thinking of downsizing, those hobbies might need downsized.

Jodi Rosko 2:32

So that's what we're gonna talk about today. We had a client that sewed too that had I knew she had bookcases, and it was like the whole bookcases in the basement were, like you said, all those beautiful fabrics, color-coded, like. Yeah, like a rainbow, yes, very cool. Sorted, yes. Very cool. So um, first of all, let's just talk about why hobbies are important. I mean, uh we have some tatis statistics on that. Um, people who um have hobbies are 34% less likely to suffer from depression, um, which I think is super interesting. You know, you have like something that interests you and you're doing a purpose. Yeah, exactly. So that's reading or gardening or you know, crafting or whatever it is that also lowers your cortisol or your stress hormones. So kind of gives you that, like, okay. And I know like you and I both are we watch TV, but we cannot just watch TV. We have to be doing something.

Heather Fisher 3:22

Multitask.

Jodi Rosko 3:23

I am not just a TV watcher. And so that's that kind of thing. Like if you were did the cross stitch or you know, if you were like we play games too. We play yeah, but yeah.

Heather Fisher 3:33

Um I think it's funny that our stuff we've been talking about stats where too much stuff raises our cortisol and then using the stuff as a hobby lowers our cortisol down. So it's an even playing field. So that's the solution.

Jodi Rosko 3:48

Well, I think it just needs just enough stuff to get the hobby done without having it be like so crazy. Yes. Okay, so that's one thing. Also, it is improved physical health. So um they've studies have shown that people who are regularly engaged in hobbies have better sleep, lower blood pressure, and fewer chronic health complaints. Um and they're 30 p 30% less likely to die over an eight-year uh period than those without hobbies, which is also super interesting. So they keep your body young and your mind young as we age.

Heather Fisher 4:21

Yeah, well, I think people join us uh uh, you know, to listen to our podcast and you know, we're having fun or we're talking about hard topics and we're talking about emotion, but then you see like these things really do come down to science. Yeah. And your well-being uh on a lot of these topics, and that's so fascinating to me. Right.

Jodi Rosko 4:41

It all weaves together.

Heather Fisher 4:42

Yeah.

Jodi Rosko 4:43

One another one is social connection and loneliness. And so if you find a hobby that you guys do together, like book club or you know, sewing together or crocheting together, or any of those things, walking, any of it. Yeah. Um, that really that it will create collec a connection with other people, which is also really important for your health. Yeah. I think you know even in online communities, even if you're not doing it in person with the easy Yeah, certainly.

Heather Fisher 5:10

I think that that's something m we notice in lots of areas where as a a society we're more lonely because things are isolating and you don't have to leave your house as much as you you used to because everything can come to the door and all of that. But I think back how fun it would have been, you know, they had the sewing circles or whatever, and just all of the things you did um for your day-to-day living, so many more of them were done in community. Yes. Um so hobbies are a way to bring back that environment to to find groups that are doing the same thing and and go join them.

Jodi Rosko 5:50

Yeah, I love that. Um cognitive benefits too. Um uh it shows that if you're doing music, listening to music or playing music, doing puzzles, any kind of games, painting, that all helps with your cognitive decline. Like slower cognitive, keeps your brain keeps your brain smart.

Heather Fisher 6:08

Yeah.

Jodi Rosko 6:08

Yeah. So that's super cool. Um, and then um another one shows that they just felt like they had a higher happiness and purpose in life. And that's exactly what you were saying. Like it gives you some purpose or something to do, and especially if you you know do something good with whatever you create. So that's fun.

Heather Fisher 6:26

Yeah. There's so many people with so much talent. They're not only having fun with their hobbies, but beautiful product coming out the other side.

Jodi Rosko 6:35

My hum uh my husband, his dad painted, and he would go, so he did it all so that was cognitive, and then he went down and did it like at the community center, so he did it so with socially and all of that, and then he he would create Christmas cards, um, hand-painted Christmas cards um that he s gave us every year. And so last year, he's passed away, but last year I I framed all the Christmas cards for Mark, and so there's like all these white, white frames, and so we put them all in a in a frame, and it turned out really cool. And we just kind of made a wall of of his framed Christmas cards, and it was really cool. Yeah, I love that.

Heather Fisher 7:12

That was cool. I love that. So when we're talking about hobbies, I think we definitely want to keep hobbies in our life. Yeah. You know, we do not want to say downsize and get rid of all your hobbies.

Jodi Rosko 7:25

We're not saying that.

Heather Fisher 7:26

Yeah. So maybe we can talk a bit about, you know, how to um decide which hobbies. I think sometimes we have um abandoned hobbies.

Jodi Rosko 7:37

Yeah.

Heather Fisher 7:38

And so that's not going to be doing giving you the health benefits or anything. It's just giving you the burden. It's giving you the burden of what you're not doing and what you're not using and the stuff. Um, so that is probably a great place to start looking around your environment. Yeah. And deciding, you know, what what things are bringing you joy. So, you know, some some questions to ask around should you let something go or keep it going? Um, do I still love this? Or do you just feel obligated to keep it around or to half-heartedly do it because you invested time and money and you feel guilty? It's okay. It's just like, you know, the shirt you bought, spent the money on, and never wore, it's that's past.

Jodi Rosko 8:29

Right.

Heather Fisher 8:30

It was a mistake, but it's fine.

Jodi Rosko 8:32

And maybe the hobby wasn't a mistake. Maybe there was a time in your life. Like, um, oh my gosh, one time my friends and I, we thought we could make hairbows for the girls when they were little. And we bought all this ribbon because we're like, this has to be easy, and the hairbows were kind of, you know, semi-expensive. Not really. But so and we're like, where you can do this. Oh my gosh, we spent the whole night, we spent all this money on ribbon. We ended up with no usable hairbows. We were not capable of making the hairbows. And so that was just like, okay, failed attempt, move on. Like, we don't, you know, whatever. But sometimes you have hobbies like, I mean, I wouldn't even be trying that now. My girl's not at that age. And so sometimes, like, I did a lot of craft stuff with the kids when they were little, but they don't none of us do that anymore. And so it wasn't a mistake, it was just a time in our life of what we were then. And now, you know, that time has moved on. And we can look at other stuff because you should when you look at your hobby, it's like, is that where you feel most your yourself? Can you kind of get lost in that? Like, you know, if you're singing or playing music, or you know, you can get lost in that and kid do you get lost in your hobby a little bit and just feel painting, those kind of things can just like the time goes and you just don't even know where it went.

Heather Fisher 9:45

And are you finding the time because you love it so much? Yeah. Like I can't wait to go home and and do that, make it a priority, or are you kind of avoiding and just feeling burdened by it?

Jodi Rosko 9:58

Yeah. And some hobbies are a great way to um, you know, spend some time if you end up with lots of time, like after your kids have left, you know, to give yourself some some things to do. So um, but but so if you have hobbies that have been useful in your life at some point but they're not anymore, then those are the ones that can mosey on out the door because somebody else loves that hobby and would be happy to take that stuff.

Heather Fisher 10:21

Yeah. So thinking about when the last time you actually spent time uh doing that hobby and what would the hobby look like in a smaller or a right-sized home? Is it something that can easily move forward or change to fit uh, you know, that new lifestyle?

Jodi Rosko 10:42

I think of that as like um I every like sewing and um, you know, you have all the fabric or um crocheting and you have all the yarn and you know so you do a project and you used a certain amount of whatever and there's always left over. And so you want to you just end up keeping and you just keep, keep, keep, keep, keep. And so um is there a way that you can let that go? And I know it's hard. I'm not saying it's not hard because you're like, I could use that for something else or whatever. Right. But I think what how could you project by project kind of let some of that go?

Heather Fisher 11:17

Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. I know um, you know, my mom loves to crochet and and she has all the yarn and and all of that, and you know, we we all can only use so many scarves or you know, blankets that she's made, and but she enjoys the activity of it. So she crochets scarves um for all the kids. She donates them to kids, you know, that might not have that and need that for the winter. And so she's using it. She's not super particular. She's using up the yarn she has from other projects and then getting them out the door, and and I love that.

Jodi Rosko 11:56

So Yeah, we I we're I uh volunteer with the Rotary and w at Christmas we have a hat and um a hat and gloves and scarf drive. Um not the coats, just the hats and gloves. And we got this bag of the most beautiful handmade crocheted hats. Um they're they were lovely. And um so people definitely want those. I mean, if that's your um if that's your hobby and you feel like, oh my gosh, my kids have enough hats, um, you absolutely can share those with others.

Heather Fisher 12:31

I think there are organizations uh like VA hospitals, n you know, nurseries sometimes there um, you know, if they're brand new, yeah, people going through chemotherapy to have blankets when they're doing that. There are lots of places if your hobby is creating something, but the overwhelm comes from not having an outlet to give, you know, move that forward. Um there are lots of ways to get creative to find people who would love um you know that end result and not to have that just stacking up um in your house and and being part of the overwhelm. Yeah, for sure.

Jodi Rosko 13:16

Yeah. Um so you can if you can create a visual or a written legacy if you're letting go of some things and you know, let's say it's quilts and you're gonna go ahead and give them to people who need them, you can still take a picture of that, create like a little book of the quilts that you've created so you just remember them. Um, but you know that somebody's out there using it and loving it, so that's kind of cool. Um you can find you can let go with generosity, right? Find people who are um doing that and um want to do that.

Heather Fisher 13:45

And yeah, I think we have found a couple of times we had a client that was a painter, um, and so she had you know two or three bedrooms with paint supplies and easels and um, you know, not only her finished paintings, but all of the supplies from years of of doing that. Um and she wasn't able for her new space, she was taking just a small portion of that. Um, but we were able to connect her here locally with an art school that taught uh classes um in our area for underprivileged kids to teach them art um and and painting and things. They were so thankful to get just, you know, those couple boxes of supplies. And there are oftentimes clubs, you know, that would love to get your old golf clubs or your fishing supplies or your craft supplies, um, schools, you know, if if you have stuff left over from when your kids were at home, or just a lot of scrapbooking or um just a lot of craft supplies that end up being kind of random. You know, I have a stack of colored paper and these pom-poms and this, you know, uh this and that. Uh a lot of times teachers are very grateful um because that can be just such a grab box for different projects um to fill that void without having to buy new supplies.

Jodi Rosko 15:17

Yeah. Senior centers, same thing they do. A lot of times they'll have craft classes and you know, have things that they want maker spaces, like at the library. Uh here we have a library maker space which we still need to go to.

Heather Fisher 15:30

Yes.

Jodi Rosko 15:32

And our team is um has been there a lot, and we just um can't wait to go see what it all looks like. Yeah. So um there's definitely places to donate it to where it's gonna go to really good use. And that lady that had given her paint supplies, that was such a win-win because she was so happy. Yeah, um, she felt so great about that. And then um the kids felt great, you know, the teachers and the kids felt great about it too. So that was such a win-win.

Heather Fisher 15:56

Yeah, I think when we're talking about donations frequently on our episodes, um, you know, there's lots of great organizations in many cities that are just that kind of general donation. Like what could someone else use for a standard household? And so you're giving pots and pans and blankets and and all of that, and that's wonderful. But there's these unique categories where it doesn't feel the same to give all of your art supplies to a general donation bin because it's just not targeted and the odds of it landing in the the right hands um and getting the the life that it has and the love that you have in that um used again isn't always um you know the choice that feels the best. So I I love when we can help connect the unique thing with an organization that might want it and put it to use. Um, train collections. I said we've come across a lot of um train collectors, but there are groups I'm sure in every city that would love that and that we've been able to connect.

Jodi Rosko 17:08

Yeah, yeah. It's yeah, it feels very rewarding and it makes it easier to let go.

Heather Fisher 17:14

Yeah, because that next person loves it as much as as you did and can put it to use. Or a lot of those situations, um, those supplies get used to teach uh the next generation to love whatever it was. Yeah. Um, which i is amazing. You're carrying on that legacy of the hobby and you know, teaching new kids how to golf or how to, you know, love the train sets or whatever it is. Um you're passing that on.

Jodi Rosko 17:45

Yes. Yep. In our family, it's needlepoint, and so my Nana needlepointed and um my Aunt Kara needlepoints, and so um I ha I used to, and then I stopped, and so I just picked it up again, and um Maddie is doing it with me. Well, we're doing separate ones, but like we've decided to make belts, so um, so they'll be useful in the end. Yeah, and so it's fun to see her start to do it as well.

Heather Fisher 18:10

So yeah, it's kind of fun. Absolutely. My daughter skipped over me. I never took the time to learn how to crochet, but my daughter does um along with my mom, and they're constantly comparing and helping each other, and and you know, my daughter's of the age of YouTube videos and things that so she was taught a lot through that, and she turns around and shows my mom new new ways to do things, even though she's very skilled herself. So it's really cool to see how those can be passed down in families. Yeah. But if that's not the case, there's that same reward from clubs and and places you could teach a class on something. You know, if you really have a skill, you can put yourself in that role of leading a group of young people or your peers, um, senior centers and schools and lots of places would love to have classes on things that you know how to do and keep those skills going.

Jodi Rosko 19:11

I tried knitting once and um I have too much stress apparently because I would start and it would just get tighter and tighter until I couldn't move the needles anymore. And then I'd pull it apart and start again. And I needed somebody to teach me that because that was not something that I could get on my own.

Heather Fisher 19:28

Yeah, I did try that once and got, you know, like a few inches of a scarf or something, and then accidentally was all unraveling and I don't even know what I did and didn't have the patience at that phase in life to go back.

Jodi Rosko 19:41

Yeah. Yeah. I was back to needlepoint after that.

Heather Fisher 19:45

I I did cross-stitch uh when I I I think my neighbor taught me, gosh, I remember being like middle school age, and my neighbor taught me. And I did um I broke my arm and she I had to get the sl had to wear the sling from the doctor, and she cross-stitched like my name and a design on my sling, and then ended up teaching me how to do it after um, you know, after my arm was healed and and all of that. She was the one who taught me, and um, I did lots of projects and when my kids were born and were babies, and I was home with them, and they were still, you know, babies, so they could they napped a lot and all of that. I did some pretty big projects, and I'm not sure my my life has the time for that, but I did come across my one box of supplies recently as I was cleaning out some some things and I had to open the box to know what was in it from when I last moved, and then I was like, oh, there it is. And I I I did I'll admit I did pause and say, I need to, you know, it was kind of a maybe box. I said I need to revisit this before we're headed to the donation center in an hour.

Jodi Rosko 20:54

Well, and I do think sometimes you can pick things back up again. But um and maybe you need to rediscover it in a different way. Maybe you need to go take a class or you know, do something to kind of give yourself a little revitalization about it. Yeah. Okay, so if you're trying to take it into uh uh a smaller space, what kind of things can you do to scale it down? So kind of think about how how organizing, really to get it very organized that could be. Could you could you do that on a folding table that would then fold back up and go somewhere in a closet or something? So it's not necessarily just out in a room all the time if you don't have a specific hobby room in your new place. Um IKEA has like rolling cart crafts or you know, some some of the the uh crafting stores have rolling carts where you can organize everything and kind of put it in a cart that it could roll away, maybe, or stackable bins that it could go into a closet or something. You could pull it out.

Heather Fisher 21:54

I love when you can uh uh especially the rolling cart, but when you can put it out of sight when you're not Doing it and keeping true to that, you know, clear spaces for that clear mind and and you're not feeling overwhelmed by trying to share one room with too many purposes.

Jodi Rosko 22:13

Yeah.

Heather Fisher 22:13

Um you can slide slide it away when it's not time for that.

Jodi Rosko 22:18

Yeah. And then sometimes you can create like a dual purpose room. Like it can be your craft room and your guest room. Yeah. So maybe it has a pull-out couch or you know, something like that, but you also can have a desk that folds open or uh you know has storage that you can close it off and and then so you can kind of create a multi-purpose room, or maybe you can put your painting easel in your dining room and then take that back down.

Heather Fisher 22:45

Yeah, I think it works well when um the the second purpose of a room is not every day. Yeah. Like that, you know, when it's the guest room. Right. It's there when needed, but uh the main purpose can be one thing.

Jodi Rosko 23:01

Yeah, Mark's dad, um, in their house, they had a ranch that had a little area that was like a sunroom. And he loved to paint there. So Yeah.

Heather Fisher 23:10

Yeah. Little dead designated corner where it's a very good thing. Because it was the light as well.

Jodi Rosko 23:14

He left the light. Yeah, it was just in the corner.

Heather Fisher 23:16

Yeah.

Jodi Rosko 23:17

Who may have their breakfast kind of table there, but it was he liked the light there.

Heather Fisher 23:23

Yeah. Um if you're going to have a garage in your next place, is there room for a smaller workshop, take you know, one workshop bench versus what you might have had in a larger space. How can you scale that down?

Jodi Rosko 23:40

Mm-hmm. And you can do some some things you can do digitally. You can um switch to, you know, drawing on a tablet that's so different than drawing with actual things. So you'll have to decide if that's for you. But there, you know, you could potentially do something like that. Um you can, you know, scan your collections and kind of, you know, know what those are that way.

Heather Fisher 24:04

Yeah. I think you could potentially take sometimes too, like when we were talking about quilting. Um is there something similar? Uh my neighbor who I was saying had all the fabric in her living room, she made the cutest little um like Christmas tree quilted Christmas ornaments out. I mean, she just used uh the scrap fabric that she accumulated from all of the quilts and she would match up different patterns and make the cutest um Christmas tree ornaments. And so maybe if you don't have space for, you know, spreading out huge quilts um or the time or the patience anymore, can you take those same skills and do something where you're still dipping into it but at a smaller scale too? Yeah, yes. Smaller paintings or um, you know, anyway where you're still keeping it in your life, but maybe not the same scale.

Jodi Rosko 25:06

Right. Yeah. Yeah. And then uh you know, s do it socially so that you can take that, you know, maybe you can take a little piece, you know, little box that you you just you know, that's that's the size of your hobby, and you take it off to somewhere where you can do it as a group or do it in a in a club or a class.

Heather Fisher 25:24

Yeah, I think um uh that gives you so many benefits back to the social aspect um and the the teaching aspect. Um definitely do some research to your local senior centers or uh rec centers, um, lots of places and you know, if they're offering a class, go join in. You'll find other people that have um, you know, a common interest in learning about that. You might learn something new. If there's opportunity to help teach a class, jump in and do that. Um, you know, you get to still surround yourself with the hobby, but you're doing it with your supplies somewhere else. Yeah. Not necessarily in your space.

Jodi Rosko 26:10

Well, and if your hobby is something big like pottery and you have a wheel or something like that, you know, maybe that can you can let that go, but you can go take a, you know, class or go to a makerspace or go to a pottery, you know, and just go once a week to do it there and use their wheel in a studio. Right.

Heather Fisher 26:29

Yeah, absolutely.

Jodi Rosko 26:30

So kind of think outside the box where you can still have the hobby and do it. And maybe even it would might even be better when you, you know, do it with others. Maybe no, maybe it's your own thing and you just kind of put put your headphones on when you go there and just do that silently. But yeah, either way, there's still ways to do it.

Heather Fisher 26:47

In your life and and reap the benefits from it. I think that's comparable to someone who might have mm had huge garden, you know, vegetable gardens on acreage, and then, you know, maybe you reduce that to some, you know, planter boxes or, you know, the uh deck growing up your tomatoes in pots instead of the big vegetable garden. And you're just kind of scaling down as you go, but you're still enjoying the same hobby.

Jodi Rosko 27:19

Um some of the hobbies I we find that people have trouble letting go of ones that they used to have, um and and they don't want to let go of the th that idea of it. And so we're I was kind of looking into why you would let go of a hobby. And it kind of ties into some of the other um podcasts that we've done about you know grief and time management and all kinds of things, but a lot of it is grief, honestly. Like it um if you get sad, you kind of just stop doing the things that you like to do. And um so so some of that could if you you can pull you back out of the grief if you start to get yourself back into it. Um some of it is um you know, it's painful be pic because uh you gardened together, or the garden reminded you of of this person, or that hobby somehow reminded you of that person, and now again, like you're struggling with it. So um just kind of be cognizant of why you're holding on to it, and is it because you genuinely think you're gonna pick it up again, or is it because you just can't let it go for some reason?

Heather Fisher 28:27

Yeah, grieving a season of life that's no longer there.

Jodi Rosko 28:30

Yeah, and and that's okay. And just realize that and then let, you know, pick the f the hobbies that give you that joy and give you that energy and and you know, let you keep moving forward. So just a little thought about why sometimes they get stuck in a corner, but then we still can't seem to let go of them. Yeah.

Heather Fisher 28:51

And I think that that y you know, that you saying that m reminds me sometimes it's a great opportunity to really just switch to something new. Yeah. So you're not grieving that it's not as grand, as big of a scale as it was, or you can't physically do it as well, or whatever. It's just the opportunity to fill that space with learning something new. And it's n never, you know, we're never too old to jump in and Yeah.

Jodi Rosko 29:21

I think crafty people are crafty in a lot of ways. I I think they're easily to pick up a different crafty thing.

Heather Fisher 29:28

Yeah.

Jodi Rosko 29:29

I think that's easier, easier for people.

Heather Fisher 29:31

Yeah, and all kind, you know, just different ways you can plug in and just try something you've never tried.

Jodi Rosko 29:39

Yeah. So if you're uh if you're struggling with hobby, uh like I think of it as like little kind of areas that you're just like, uh can't do that, can't, you know, like just kind of clutter, hobby clutter.

Heather Fisher 29:53

Yeah, hobby clutter is the right way to put it. But I think it's the time to to get real with yourself and ask a lot of the questions we've talked about. You know, why is it still there in the house? Are you enjoying it? Are you using it? That might it might be all great status quo then. Are you enjoying it, but you need to go to a different um, you know, home, a a different location, and so that we have to find ways to scale it down so you can still enjoy it? Is it just something that you know you're feeling guilt over?

Jodi Rosko 30:29

You used to do it and now you have all that stuff and you spent all that money on it, yeah and it's not your thing anymore. Um it's somebody else's thing. They will be so happy to have it. You know, let them have it and pick something that you're gonna do.

Heather Fisher 30:42

Yeah. And if it's just, well, I don't do that anymore, not really attached to it, but I just don't know what to do with it, that's a problem we can help with as well. So um, you know, that's looking at uh creative donation resources or creative ways to to move that on to someone who will love it.

Jodi Rosko 31:01

So we have a lot of resources on our website at downsizingremap.com. But if you have something special, reach out to us and we'll we'll see if we can figure out how to help.

Heather Fisher 31:09

Yeah, absolutely. So um I think that's it for today. I want to hear what hobbies everybody is doing, so I can pick a new one and dive in. But um, yeah, we will be back next time with another episode. And like Jody said, the resources on our website, downsizingroadmap.com, and we look forward to talking to you next time. Thanks for joining us on the Downsizing Roadmap Podcast. If you found this episode helpful, be sure to subscribe, leave us a review, and share it with someone who might need a little downsizing inspiration. Have questions or ideas for future episodes, reach out to us on our website, www.downsizingroadmap.com. Until next time, let's keep simplifying and moving forward.